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Intel Efficiency Cores explained! Do E cores matter for gaming? Join PC Centric for full gameplay benchmarks with E cores disabled with an RTX 4090 and i7 14700K ⭐ Corsair 2500 Series Cases: (AD)

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00:00 Do Efficiency Cores Matter?
01:19 What Are Efficiency Cores?
03:17 How To Disable E Cores!
05:27 6 P + 2 E Cores
09:01 8 P + 0 E Cores
10:56 8 P + 4 E Cores
12:27 Benchmark(us) Graphs!
14:02 Well, was it worth it?!

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Comments

  1. I think you should have tried playing Cities Skylines II, because as far as I know it's a heavily CPU bound

  2. Thanks!

  3. Chill out! 3D V Cache is more important than core count or 6GHz. Thats why 7800X3D is the gaming king with 65W power draw full load.

  4. They cause alot of issues thats for sure. I keep seeing so many posts about people saying ''disable cores'' or somthing when peoples games are stuttering. If you want an issue free experience, buy AMD

  5. i recently discovered your channel and its amazing to find a fellow brit out there

  6. Pretty much as expected – your +E results are mostly only a nudge above margin of error.
    Presumably the E cores are occasionally getting sent a discreet simple operation when the Ps are occupied but on the whole the threading control should mostly ignore them in demanding programs like games. Of course, it will always depend on the structure of the specific code…

  7. I disabled them on my 14900k 4090 scar 18 laptop, not only has performance improved with ecores disabled but many microstutters resolved as well, for example in hogwarts legacy ecores on suffer from microstutters still, older games like Technomancer don’t even launch with ecores on, in addition tiny Tina’s texture preload is faster with ecores off, maybe it’s more apparent on laptops due to 330w limits.

  8. No Warzone 😢

  9. Another great video Marcus!!!

  10. Be cool to see some Linux tests…. see if its handled the same or worse than Windows 11

  11. I still can't get over how BIG GPUS have gotten lmao.

  12. How's bout temperature wise in a laptop scenario? Does it drop the temp?

  13. In some random games the cores utilized will hop from P to E cores causing stutters etc. not as common as windows updates, game updates, intel updates roll out. Basically unless you notice the issue don't bother

  14. Enabling E-Cores will crash Control (the game) consistently in the Foundation DLC. And it causes major stutters in Samurai Warriors 5. Just in case anyone was wondering. I could replicate this on a latop 13900HX and a desktop 13700K.

  15. 13:40 The 1% Low is weirdly bad for 8P+4E and interestingly good for 6P+2E although the difference is small.

  16. W video!

  17. Gamers Nexus already made a video regarding this topic, leave E cores enabled.

  18. Did you get…taller??

  19. Would have been nice to see the benchmarks with just efficiency cores.

  20. Should my p and e cores be off?

  21. i have 2 pc's one up one downstairs both with a 12700k. one runs amazing all core 5.1ghz at 1.20v for pcores, ecores at 4ghz while the other runs like ass with the ecores enabled. crashes, stutters, freezes and everything in between! also cannot clock the p cores past 4.8 all core. but when i turn the ecores off it runs 5.1ghz all core at 1.28v all day with no issues. the first system gets me around 15-40fps more in the games i play. my takeaway is when the ecores are good quality they help, whereas when they are crap its a deal breaker. silicon lottery

  22. The diffence between 177 and 173 is within margin of error(especially if only one run was done to get those numbers)…

  23. What version of the RTX 3080 TI do I need for the dragon Canyon 12 I nine I know it’s a 12 inch card but which version could you please help? If I can’t use a 3080? Can I use a 4074 example?

  24. No, they help. You have dedicated P cores that focus solely on gaming where as E cores do background tasks handle Windows 11 bloat and also help with gaming.

  25. I would like to see what happens when other tasks start up to see if the E core do their job and pick up the task without the P cores taking a hit.

  26. Can I stick with Ryzen so I don't have to sell my child into slavery to afford it?

  27. I prefer P-Cores exclusively, the addition of E-Cores does give you more pipelines but the CPU does need the chops to handle that task.

  28. I do light video editing and ecore is used for rendering when i checked core usage.

  29. Well, seems like you should have tested at 1080p so you could remove the GPU bottleneck. And maybe set the power budget that your cooler could handle (I'm just hoping you are using a cooler that can dissipate 200w+). You also need to show the actual power usage so we will know if there is overclocking headroom or not based on our PSU and cooling situation.

    Seems like the point of this is deciding whether to buy a 200 quid 12700 or a 500 quid 14700. And it seems like you can save the dosh to spend on either a better SSD* or GPU. Heck that 300 is practically a GPU by itself if you can find a 6800XT or similar.

    *(I've only found maybe 5 PCIe 4.0 models worth the massive proce increase over a good DRAM Cache 3.0 drive, and the Silicon Power US75 is one of the cheapest, delivering almost 3,000MBps writes for /the entire drive/ in one sitting. As in it doesn't throttle back. I mean it will burst at 6k or whatever too, but it won't tank in real performance after the SLC cache goes away)

  30. I am not sure if this is useful anymore, but process lasso can force games to avoid efficiency cores, or force background processes to use efficiency cores more. It's possible to segment the processes.

    I'm uncertain because windows 11 may handle scheduling really well, or that there are some tests that showed that disabling e-cres reduced framerates a lot. I still believe a bit of tweaks is beneficial.

  31. If you want to game then by cpu with 6 core if you want for workstation then buy more then 6 core cup simple why make it so complicated like you can't use ecore well with in workstation then why bothered getting them?

  32. Cores or Cause??

    PC Centric: YES haha

  33. If you had turned hyperthreading off you would have had a true comparison but since you left 8 hyperthreads on you already had 16 thread in the first place

  34. Marcus was hyper threading on or off? YOU SHOULD HAVE TURNED HYPER-THREADING OFF??????

  35. Intel needs to stop with their joke GPUs and AI bullshit and put all that money and resources back in their CPUs. They need their Ryzen moment. It's pretty sad how bad they fell off. It's like how AMD was before Ryzen, though not as bad but you get my point. They need a huge come back.

  36. Every time you touch the desk the egg on the 4090 rattles.

  37. I was literally asking this in the discord yesterday what timing !

  38. THANKS FOR 0 LIKE AND 0 SUBSCRIBERS 😈

  39. Use performance mode(instead of dx11 or dx12) on Fortnite if you want to test the CPU as that is the most CPU bound way the game can run

  40. "turning off the E-cores" is just nonsense being spread by windows 10 holdouts who don't understand hybrid computing and windows 11.

  41. Keep up the work. Always a good day to learn more about pc parts.
    AMD user here. 😅

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