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You OWN your gaming hardware? In 2025?? Cloud gaming has come a LONG way and Nvidia’s GeForce NOW is actually… pretty good. But that doesn’t necessarily mean that it’s a good thing.
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 Intro
1:46 Cloud Gaming & GeForce NOW
3:24 Our System
3:43 Indiana Jones: Cloud
7:35 Borderlands 4: Cloud
10:59 Apex Legends: Cloud
13:47 Apex Legends: Local
15:27 Borderlands 4: Local
17:00 Indiana Jones: Local
17:32 Conclusion
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Can you have someone on the staff fly to Portland to see if using Geforce Now in a place that's geographically close to a server feels that much better? 😀
You will own nothing 😵💫
Appreciate the South Park reference
People are usually not very good at saving to buy an expensive computer so for those people this would be an option
Should have tested with your bandwidth limited, maybe to 100mbps
I have a doubt. When watching geforce now video it says premium users will have 100GB single session storage. If that's the case / option we choose we have to download / install each game every time we login? They also say something about persistent storage for additional cost.
To me this doesn't seem worth it. Just 4 years of the subscription to be able to afford a 1k gaming pc? That's nothing, most people will game for far longer than just 4 years. Just buy a gaming pc at that point and pay in monthly installments.
It's great. Like NETFLIX was. Rememeber? Now you get less quality then compared to pirating. You have to pay like how much more then used to? You have to pay for like 4 separated service if you want to be able to watch every show. Btw pray your Network always works, pray they are not on amazon AWS or what shit. Fuack cloud gaming! It's a step toward disaster AGAIN!
I wonder why I havent seen this in internet cafes,it seems disgustingly progitable
Someone should show the engineers of call of duty servers this video
A lot of games require frame accurate reactions (like Expedition 33, Sekiro, etc) and for those games streaming will always be a compromised experience that literally makes an already difficult game harder. And that's if and only if you're in the right region of the world with the right internet connection, if not then these kinds of games are not playable.
what could be an interesting blind test is, a 5060ti 16gb system with performance DLSS4 and frame gen…..VS…..rtx 5080 cloud gaming system. my money is still on the native card
If you're on a budget, the Performance subscription works just fine and halves the monthly cost.
Cloud does have some other advantages you didn't touch on… Mainly the fact that you're not using that power in your home and it's part of the subscription. In Canada with cheap power that part will not matter as much, but in Europe you're probably saving 10-20 cents an hour of playing in energy costs. It also means that you're not pumping that heat into your home which can be positive or negative depending on your climate and season. It's definitely easier to keep your system quiet during gaming though. Also it's easy to stream to a handheld like a steam deck, or one of the awesome android handhelds available… Or even your phone (though you typically give up some comfort, unless you use an actual controller and put your phone or a tablet on the table in front of you).
Still, having said all that, I still prefer having my local PC with a 9070XT. I do stream that one to my steam deck though using Apollo and Moonlight. There's also one disadvantage of streaming that you missed and that's that I think you actually don't have access to all your steam games. If the publisher chooses to block it, you can't, not with the new way of installing your own games either. Most notably, you can't play any Sony games on GeForce Now (but they're not the only ones, just the biggest).
I remember completing Death Stranding with 4 to 6 fps avg and sometime 0 fps. I had to predict where I had to go only by the song of the game because it was 0fps lol. And that is one of my greatest achievement completing Death Stranding with mostly 0 fps lol
20$ for an inferior experience that can ONLY be used for gaming? No thanks. I'll keep buying an actual GPU that can do 100 other things and have no compression at all.
10:19 "Garbage in, garbage out when it comes to compression, man. So, the cleaner an image you can put into this thing, the better it's going to look once you transmit it over the internet"
Yeah no that is just not how video compression works at all lmao. Resolution doesn't affect how badly something compresses. 4K will require a lot more bitrate than 1080p, but 4K should look like 4K and 1080p should look like 1080p. If it doesn't, then you're compressing the video incorrectly. Yes garbage in, garbage out, but resolution is not a metric for "garbage". And with for example 1440p 60 fps, you should be able to handle visually lossless CRF 0 if you have a gigabit internet connection. Heck, even 120 fps should be doable, possibly slightly higher. Now that depends a bit on how good the encoders are. Since they use GPU, you'd probably have to get the equivalent of CRF 5, but then again, for H264, CRF 15 is considered visually lossless, H265 is CRF 18. Don't waste time with AV1.
You talked about how you were running at 60mbps and that it could go "as high as 100". That is straight up pathetic. 100 is nothing, no wonder the quality looks like shit. At 4K 120, it should probably be above 500mbps.
It'll be ok till they quintuple the price then you try buy a GPU but due to steaming no one makes them anymore
Can you install mods for Steam games?
Maybe somehow they can make gpu without the expensive cost using AI and there's reason ssd and ram price increasing
The subscription price only seems good because they have inflated the prices of actual hardware beyond reason.
"You will own nothing and be happy"
How long before they start rendering ads or product placement into the game you're streaming?
WTF happened to your teeths
Does linus have braces on?
Linus got braces??? When did that happen?
everything is thrash in Singapore's geforce now service. still stuck with 2060/2080s
20 bucks is really worth it, too bad that's just until it becomes mainstream. Then sky is the limit with the monthly price.
Now we're politely ignoring that GPU prices that make 20 a month be worth it are inflated as hell, and a local GPU could easily cost under 1000 but AI demand baby. Or just price gouging.
Aaaaand then the ads. Because where else would you rent a working GPU than NVIDIA or AMD?
this video has a different vibe to it did yall change the editor? it feels nicer with more personality
What about lothless scaling
I played Arkham Asylum on Onlive. It was oddly functional like fifteen years ago. Funny thing is, it wasn't even as bad of an experience as launch Arkham Knight
No, it's not, stop deluding yourself.
so what you going to choose? communism, you don't own a thing it's all shared and control by government, or capitalism stuff owned by the richest guys, rent to you, and you still own nothing
But the thing is, you can always sell your old GPU, which could have 30%-100% cash back. (Yes, 100%, maybe even 200% LOL)
For me latency would be the killer, i play a lot of somewhat competitive FPS games, it already sucks when some of them have desync issues then add that extra 20-30ms of latency at best for your inputs to register and well good luck winning sweaty firefights *im going off best case latency as well, almost all my games i get into are around 60-80ms latency so unless nvidia has its servers closer to me which would make up for it, it really doesnt help.
now for games that are more casual, racing, flight sims, minecraft, i can see that not being as big as of an issue.
If anyone is curious, I have been playing counter strike 2 for the better part of a year on GeForce Now. The input latency is so good now that it feels like im playing on bare hardware (unless im lagging). It's gotten to the point where I delayed getting a new gaming pc because my experience will be worse with what I can currently afford lol. I am deeply scared for the future of ownership because there's no economical reason for me to even get a new PC now
Cloud gaming still doesn't work if Internet is down for whatever reason and still doesn't allow you to run whatever games you want and own, only a selection THEY decide on. So, yeah, no.
This video was fuzzy. Why not two PCs side by side? Why the whole GPU swap story? I did not get the FrameGen discussion either (probably just me).
"Game Journalists" raving about something being good immediately means it's the shittest thing imaginable.