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Upgrading = Change = Scary = Future = Growth
Bought a Cooler Master V1000 7 years ago during my first build which had an 8700k and 1050 ti (don't ask me why). Upgraded to a 3060 12 gig 2 years ago and just now upgraded to a 7700x. I'll upgrade to a mid range gpu in 2-3 years and I think my psu would still run like a champ
I buy in cycles of 2
#1, Everything besides gpu first.
#2, Then when a new intense game release, a new gpu, i aim for cpu to be the bottleneck (mid to high tier gpu)
Right now i run a 3900x with a 4070 ti, gpu were on sale a year ago
You can't really future-proof anything in IT, merely delay obsolescence
Power supply, case and cooling can last you more than a decade if you get good parts.
I've long learned that if I want to 'future proof' my setups, I basically need to follow a rule of 3. 3x as much as anyone says is 'enough' for that time frame the setup exists in. So if they say 8GB is good enough, then 24GB is my minimum. If they say 1TB is enough. Then 3TB is my minimum. Etc and so forth.
Yes, it costs more. Especially if you are going for specialty parts with special specifications that help a lot with certain work loads, etc. Optane 905P drives, are cheaper than some of their p4000 variants, etc. But still quite expensive for SSD's. But they last, basically, almost, forever. Comparatively to other ssd's at least, and even HDD's. And have super low access latencies. Which is a nice to have for certain work loads. Having 3TB of that, takes about… 1000$ canadian.
So yeah, price can get up there. But. Here's the catch.
ALL of those people, even linus, who say "X is enough", are always wrong somehow down the road. And while sure, there is a reasonable limit for most users, it's because we limit ourselves that we end up needing to buy the next big new thing, with the extra ram we need cause we didn't buy it before, etc and so forth. The upgrade cycle, as it were, gets put silently to bed for a good 5-7 years, or more. Depending on your use case. Do it right, and you won't really see a real need to upgrade again for almost a decade. By which time everything will be that much more powerful, better in every way, etc and so forth.
Speaking from experience. Already done this a couple times now. Next one is going to be an upgrade into the Threadripper/Xeon/Epyc territory. Once again, 3x everything. Maybe even 4x this time, just because.
Do I need it right away? No. But that's kind of the point. It's for later.
Case and point. Those optane drives will probably end up in the next upgrade. As will the PSU likely, since it will have a 12 year warranty, leaving anywhere from 2-5 years on it still for usable life depending on how hard it was used. Seasonic too, which tends to be pretty reliable. The ram? Well, that's a pass. But resale or reusing old rigs for other purposes puts new life into those parts anyways. Perhaps with profit. And best of all, since I bought 3x as much as anyone thinks is 'necessary', i can split things up into multiple rigs… and sell them all that way.
Anyways. You all enjoy your upgrade cycle.
P.S. I'm not rich either btw. I just know how to budget and juggle my money effectively to get … maybe not everything I want. But a lot.
It should also be noted that future proofing doesn't mean it will last forever, just that it should last a long time….
Verse buying something that is already outdated and troublesome.
Like making all of your stuff USB-C.
Will USB-C last forever? No, but will it last for a long while??? Yes.
And even when it starts to be dated, the new standard will still take a few years to remove USB-C and we could use adapters for the first while….
I future proofed my pc by going with an i7 instead of an i5 back in 2016. My 6700k still runs the games, and if I didn't do that back then, I would have to upgrade by now.
Im still running my I9 9960X with 64GB of DDR4 3200, 1200w PSU, had a GTX 1080TI Upgraded to Radeon VII (i mostly do auto CAD and the memory bandwith helps a lot) This machine is still a beast, not looking to upgrade for the forseeable future!
Surely everyone agrees that gaming isn't what most high end systems are used for GPU isn't always whats necessary. Most tasks are still CPU intensive
Well worded. Gotta clearly understand the goals you have in mind, then understand the hardest changes needed to accomplish, then consult the budget.
You misunderstood his comment, he’s want to know if it will “brake down” as in, the components in the computer will be repurposed into brake pads and be removed from the PC
Like me using 3060 on a i5 2500 🥲😅
I buy-in midlate cycle at around $4000CAD. Had my last system for 6 years no upgrades. I upgraded to get back up over 100fps in AAA titles in widescreen.
I built my PC in 2021; 5800x3d6900xtx both WC'd with an alphacool loop(2×140+3×120 rad) and a modestly OC'd GPU. As a casual gamer, but enthusiast builder, I see no reason to dump it all for a 7800x3dddr5 platform. I have no motherboard side bottlenecks. I MAY upgrade the GPU to top spec again in a year or 2. Everything I play(RustCODMWBFetc) runs at 100-140fps on my 49" samsung curved ultra-wide(5120×1440, 89% 4k).
Powersupply is absolutely the best for "future proofing" Mine is at least 15 years old. I had to take it apart and fit a new fan in a few years ago. but I had an old case I didn't use anymore where I could the casefan fit.
I call future proof at best I fix my current problem. Future proof storage get 8tb future proof graphics card it will play current game in 4k, at best part for part if on a budget or compare the lastest game with a performance base part (gpu cpu ram motherbard). Or just buy its your money
Agreed! If you future proof your PC parts aka buy the best of its class you wont have to upgrade that part often like PSU, CPU, Ram, Storage. But in GPU the era of long lasting (ex the GTX10/RX580 series) are long gone so we are better off buying the cheapest that suffice our need and upgrade later. Those that bought into i7's/R7's are still happy today so many years of good service
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Best future-proofing is not building a PC
Future proofing CAN be silly if you're overdoing it. But you need to get something that's GOOD ENOUGH, that it doesn't need to be replaced
The key is balance. Future proofing can be silly in the aspect that if you overspend, within a year or two miss range components likely arrive that are close to the level of the current high end. If you’ve got money to burn that’s one thing. But really buy the best you can comfortably afford and upgrade. I’d be tempted to say within reason get the best cpu you can reasonably afford as likely you’ll keep the platform a few years and can more easily upgrade the gpu later.
But when I say balance, don’t put a 14900k with an rx 6500xt for example. But something like an i5 13400 and say a 6750xt or similar is much more balanced.
NEVER future proof… Just get what you need now…
I have an rtx 3090ti with 750w gold psu from evga… Never thought it would work out, but here i am. I still using it undervolted because this summer is especially hot, but oh man it can keep up even when it's pulling up to 500w
PC hardware is notorious for its deprecation rate. You're better off getting a build with the best value proposition and making incremental upgrades than splurging on flagship components that don't retain their value.
I notice no difference gaming on my 1080 vs my 3080. Literally indistinguishable difference. Probably is some behind the scenes performance enhancements but on the games I play it was a pointless upgrade.
just put 2kwatt PSU, am i wrong or am i so wrong?
Future proofing is bad, but designing a system that would have some longevity based on trending requirements is good. It’s minimizing how quickly the system becomes obsolete combined with a value determination.
I've had so many folks I know tell me that they're doing some upgrade or another for "future proofing" that I just roll my eyes now. Mostly, from what I've seen, people just use that term so they have an excuse to upgrade something because they have money that's burning a hole in their pocket
You can also often upgrade the cpu alongside the graphics card and keep everything else
Linus what’s you favourite movie that has come out in recent years
Go Seasonic and you won't need a new PSU for a decade.
You should also look into the type of future proofing where maybe someone may install 128 GB of RAM because they expect future games to use that much…
Is a dusty PC in a LTT video?
idk man my 4930k is holding up just fine
I used the same Corsair 850w PSU with my Phenom II X3 720 in 2009, to the X4 960T that I bought in 2012, the i5-4790K I bought in 2015, i7-6700K that I bought in 2017, all the way through to the 3950X that I bought in 2019.
I used the same Cooler Master Storm Sniper Black Edition case and NH-D14 CPU cooler, the whole time as well!
It was only when I decided to turn that rig into a NAS that I bought all new parts for a 5800X3D gaming PC – case, 360 AIO, CPU, RAM, GPU, and PSU.
The old case, cooler and PSU still works fine as, so if you buy quality parts they can last over 15 years.
still rockin a x470, built in 2015
I just upgrade the weakest link. My mommy board and CPU endured two GPUs before it became problematic enough for it to need an upgrade.
Oh look theres me!
I'm on a B450 mainboard, originally with a Ryzen 5 1600, upgraded last year to a Ryzen 5 5600X on that board. It's a five or six year old board and it still got a new compatible chip released earlier this year! This board will easily last ke a decade without missing out on features or significant CPU performance, especially since I'm still comfortably in the mid-range, so I could also upgrade within my current CPU generation.
I'm also on the third GPU with that board, went from an RX480 to an RYX2080 Super to an RX 6950 XT and no signs of CPU bottleneck (I do game at 5120 x 1440p though) anywhere. Maybe I need to upgrade my CPU the next time I upgrade the GPU (the 1600 was a clear bottleneck to the 2080), but that's not gonna be an issue for the mainboard at all!
So yeah, I agree: futureproofing is a stupid and pointless exercise! 😂👍
Future proofing is okay if you are worried about specific components. All the smaller things though that usually won't suffer any problems is a bit much.
I had a 3930k (x79)… That thing lasted for a long time. All i did until building a new PC a couple years ago was upgrade the GPU and increase ram from 16GB i originally had to 32GB. That and some SSD SATA storage and that thing gamed pretty well. Handled the GTX1080 pretty well too.
Yeah, no, pc components don't wear out like that. Mechanical parts like fans do, but you'll notice it, and some passive components like liquid electrolytic capacitors will fail at some point, as will heavily stressed VRMs – but with a strong emphasis on *heavily stressed*. In general, a mobo/cpu combo (unless very low end) can last through at least one, likely two gpu upgrades without failing or being a massive bottleneck.
Future proofing is great! My 10 year old system rocks Windows 11.
I only just upgraded my 750w bronze thermalake PSU from 2010 last month for a 1000w Corsair one only because I didn't think I had enough headroom for my GPU upgrade to a 7900xt red devil
Buy a 4K capable PC, play at 1080P max settings.
Then when said "4K capable" parts are no longer 4K capable and everyone with one is down to 1440P/1080P max settings, you're still having the same experience with no downgrades, and not wasting money on higher resolution monitor and more electricity..
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